tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017457764988110566.post6437528252039556514..comments2023-10-09T11:45:33.422-04:00Comments on McDuff's Food & Wine Trail: I CliviDavid McDuffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03274955351036700406noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017457764988110566.post-13374457228151325032011-07-04T07:18:15.260-04:002011-07-04T07:18:15.260-04:00Dude, where are you? I hope and trust you're d...Dude, where are you? I hope and trust you're drinking something good...Do Bianchihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12744434741371288465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017457764988110566.post-60624403598942140132011-03-01T03:09:08.564-05:002011-03-01T03:09:08.564-05:00David:
Nice post about a producer that really shi...David:<br /><br />Nice post about a producer that really shines. I met Mario and Ferdinando last year at VinItaly where they were pouring numerous older vintages, including the 1999 Galea, which showed great freshness.<br /><br />Just another example of how many great producers there are in Friuli.tom hylandhttp://learnitalianwines.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017457764988110566.post-54175393385577950452011-02-25T10:59:46.521-05:002011-02-25T10:59:46.521-05:00LOL at Lisa and I agree Rob Mackin, 'Citing Gr...LOL at Lisa and I agree Rob Mackin, 'Citing Gravner, Radikon and Movia as being the "Most Famous" of Friuli is a little far fetched in my opinion.'<br /><br />You guys know your stuff, would be interested to get your recommendations, I've been using lovethis to save the labels and producers I recommend. Check out my profile and add me as a friend to see my recommendations and so I can see yours.. http://ow.ly/42A6l <br /><br />Cheers, Karl (@KarlSummerville)Karlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017457764988110566.post-77112524197638732402011-02-15T09:50:45.961-05:002011-02-15T09:50:45.961-05:00Can you please introduce me to Mario? <3 <3...Can you please introduce me to Mario? <3 <3 <3Lisanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017457764988110566.post-2556580260742961732011-02-14T12:20:09.151-05:002011-02-14T12:20:09.151-05:00Citing Gravner, Radikon and Movia as being the &qu...Citing Gravner, Radikon and Movia as being the "Most Famous" of Friuli is a little far fetched in my opinion. They are certainly the most controversial and therefore do get a lot of attention. They make wines that are quite out of the norm for the region at large. Granted some of the wines that adhere to the "norm" are frankly boring and others are quite delicious. Personally I do not get much pleasure out of the wines that employ extended skin contact, fermentations in buried amphore etc. Others do, and they should follow what gives them pleasure. Some of the rhetoric used to justify the methods I find fascinating, but it doesn't alter the amount of pleasure I experience in drinking the wines. The three producers mentioned produce miniscule amounts of wine and they are far, far different from the majority of wines produced in the region. That is a good thing, that there is this range of styles, but to imply that omitting a "fringe" element of the winemaking scene in a tour of a region is motivated by some kind of corruption, goes a bit far. I would say that the most famous producers are wineries such as the two Felluga's, Schioppetto and Jermann. I don't know if they were on the intinerary or if it really matters. Should a wine writer have to visit every producer in a region to write about what they experienced? There would be little written indeed. I Clivi makes very good wines indeed and the writer is simply responding to his experience of them. Save the conspiracy theories for politcal assasinations.Rob Mackinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017457764988110566.post-37289254925107555212011-02-13T21:14:33.629-05:002011-02-13T21:14:33.629-05:00Tyrannical indeed. Fantastic rant and I so adore d...Tyrannical indeed. Fantastic rant and I so adore dogmatic rants on dogma, make my pliable little mind all mushy and junk. <br /><br />Just as this group, (of which I am glad to be a member) is free to express our feelings and impressions of what we saw and tasted on the trip, you are free to feel the way you do about it. Aint democracy grand? I could do without the implications that we were paid to write anything, that is just false. Our travel and food was covered by the Consorzio but I can tell you that I took the time off work and was not paid while I was gone. Anyone paying out of state tuition for a child in college can assure you that was not an easy hit to my pocketbook. Just wanted to make that clear...<br /><br />Does the Consorzio Colli Orientali del Friuli have an agenda? I'm sure they do and not the least of which is garnering some attention for a region that if far too often overlooked and in the shadows of Tuscany and Piedmont. Not sure it's quite as nefarious as your comment would imply. Hell if and when we do write about the place maybe a few people will go exploring as (gasp) decide for themselves....now there's a thought. They may even go seeking the "best" of the region and stumble across the wines on your agenda. Win win no?Samantha Duganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214278596698698245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017457764988110566.post-45029409695222800592011-02-13T14:24:14.227-05:002011-02-13T14:24:14.227-05:00So, are you going to visit Gravner, Radikon or Mov...So, are you going to visit Gravner, Radikon or Movia? Visiting Friuli and not visiting these growers is insane.<br /><br />The growers syndicate has made a conscious decision of what your group can see and what you can report about. Yes, they are not telling you what to write and you can write whatever you like, I suppose, but if they limit what you can see they limit your vision and what you will learn about Fruili.<br /><br />Eliminating the most famous producers from Friuli to promote their own agenda is corrupt, dishonest and only gullible bloggers accept money for such a trip under the guise that they can still write whatever they want.<br /><br />Go see Radikon, Gravner and Movia and you will have some credibility. Otherwise, you are paid shills for the Consorzio Colli Orientali del Friuli, who have their own agenda.<br /><br />I have also enjoyed wines from I Clivi but you miss the major point about their wines. They are totally opposed, vehemently so, to growers like Gravner who do extended skin contact. This is a point of honor, if not dogma with them. Their wines are very good and argument for a totally dry style, but they consider Gravner, Radikon and the other proponents of skin contact to be destroying the typicity of Fruili. It is simply bad reporting and blogging that you and Parzen don't mention this point.<br /><br />I should mention that my firm imported the wines from I Clivi several years ago. We had a good initial reception and came across a run of bottles with TCA. Our initial customers asked for refunds and we had to take back many bottles and did not get reorders. This can happen to any grower and I can't fault I Clivi for TCA problems. We were unable to resolve these problems amicable with the Zansusso family and moved on. I wish them well.<br /><br />We now work with Radikon. Despite the fact that they use no sulphur, we have not has a single oxidized or flawed bottle since we started working with them. The Zasusso family and the Consorzio Colli Orientali del Friuli may not find the wines "typical" but we find them alive and delicious.<br /><br />Honestly, it is insane that you are in the area and your hosts are not going to arrange for you to visit those estates. No amount of freebie money would tempt me to go on such a trip. You guys sell yourself to wine officialdom too cheaply.<br /><br />We have just witnessed a great popular movement in Egypt where people too great risks to fight authorities and the tyrannical limits of knowledge and information.<br /><br />Can't you bloggers make a small effort?Louis/Dressner Selectionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08727194020936306462noreply@blogger.com